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dc comics power girl elee0228 chou-roninx ed lee (elee0228) high resolution 1:1 aspect ratio 1girl barefoot bare legs big smile bikini blonde blue eyes blue sky bright skin broken broken chain clenching fists cloud feet flexing full body karen starr legs light-skinned light-skinned female motion blur muscle muscular female pose short hair sky smile sunlight swimsuit toned veiny muscles visible solar rays white bikini white swimsuit


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just juan
4 months ago

Ewwwwww.....

Keir Tanaka
4 months ago

Just give it some time and girls won't seem so icky...

just juan
4 months ago

Keir_Tanaka said:
Just give it some time and girls won't seem so icky...

The problem isn't girls, it's this girl.

Keir Tanaka
4 months ago

Well ya gonna tell me what exactly you don't like about her?

Galinoa
4 months ago

I like the girl. I just don't like this drawing. This is some average western quality art.

Keir Tanaka
4 months ago

Your senses are entirely too delicate if that bothers you; average is tha weirdest complaint I've ever heard before!

Tallcat
4 months ago

Keir_Tanaka said:
Your senses are entirely too delicate if that bothers you; average is tha weirdest complaint I've ever heard before!

Not really. The art is terrible.

Jakuryusei
4 months ago

I love muscular women to a stalkerish level, but I've gotta agree with the others on this.

The muscle anatomy on the arms and legs is spot on. I'm actually impressed there, but somehow the neck is a total brainfart and the lineweights are so screwy that they've managed to destroy would should have been a really solid composition.

Keir Tanaka
4 months ago

Tallcat said:
Not really. The art is terrible.

Well is it terrible or average because those 2 things aren't even in tha same ballpark sonny! Still crafting your opinion as tha cold-hard truth I see!

Jakuryusei said:
I love muscular women to a stalkerish level, but I've gotta agree with the others on this.

The muscle anatomy on the arms and legs is spot on. I'm actually impressed there, but somehow the neck is a total brainfart and the lineweights are so screwy that they've managed to destroy would should have been a really solid composition.

Finally a reasonable explanation as to why this depiction is looked upon so unfavorably beyond "WAAH I don't like it; WAAH it doesn't look good to me so it must be trash" but seriously "brainfart" though!
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Oh My God people!! This isn't about the aesthetic presentation, it's about tha message you could gather from this depiction!

I'll go first:
The image represents an individual 1ce wrapped in the shackles of alot of metaphors such as self-doubt, the approval of society, conformity, the effort to attain greatness, the approval of her peers! At the actual point in time the depiction itself is captured represents the casting off of said shackles and tha joy of being set free with the chains flying away at amazing speeds! They have no effect on her mindset anymore!
The sky itself represents the infinite possibilities she can achieve & directions her path can take because she is no longer restricted by whatever forces put those chains on her to begin with! Tha sun's solar rays represent the awe & inspiration she emits for all to see as they notice how good she looks & feels about herself and her chosen path! They also represent the now debunked statements her past detractors said about her which she chose to tank and remaster into fuel to become a better version of herself as opposed to wallowing in self-pity or doubt/uncertainty!
She basically became rubber which then made them into glue; that's what I see and that's why she is my icon/avatar!

ART is not simply whatever you find aesthetically pleasing or presentable! This ART is like an "average" movie with "terrible" CGI effects! I shouldn't really be surprised because people have always said movies are more than special effects but then proceed to lambaste what's even an otherwise great film as a piece of crap simply because tha CGI or other wasn't to their standards or because they didn't get what tha movie's message was properly! ART is not what's immediately visible to your eyes but is what's visible to your Heart...hah, rhyme!

Keir Tanaka
4 months ago

Oh My God people!! This isn't about the aesthetic presentation, it's about tha message you could gather from this depiction!

I'll go first:
The image represents an individual 1ce wrapped in the shackles of alot of metaphors such as self-doubt, the approval of society, conformity, the effort to attain greatness, the approval of her peers! At the actual point in time the depiction itself is captured represents the casting off of said shackles and tha joy of being set free with the chains flying away at amazing speeds! They have no effect on her mindset anymore!
The sky itself represents the infinite possibilities she can achieve & directions her path can take because she is no longer restricted by whatever forces put those chains on her to begin with! Tha sun's solar rays represent the awe & inspiration she emits for all to see as they notice how good she looks & feels about herself and her chosen path! They also represent the now debunked statements her past detractors said about her which she chose to tank and remaster into fuel to become a better version of herself as opposed to wallowing in self-pity or doubt/uncertainty!
She basically became rubber which then made them into glue; that's what I see and that's why she is my icon/avatar!

ART is not simply whatever you find aesthetically pleasing or presentable! This ART is like an "average" movie with "terrible" CGI effects! I shouldn't really be surprised because people have always said movies are more than special effects but then proceed to lambaste what's even an otherwise great film as a piece of crap simply because tha CGI or other wasn't to their standards or because they didn't get what tha movie's message was properly! ART is not what's immediately visible to your eyes but is what's visible to your Heart...hah, rhyme!

ChopStix
4 months ago

Keir Tanaka, let me break this down for you.

No one is disputing what you're claiming. No one. What you're talking about is completely different than what the rest of us are saying which is that the drawing isn't any good. And I'm sorry to say, but it's because of your edit that it's ruined. I taken a look at the original artist, and his stuff is pretty good. Not great, but it's a start.

The message you're trying to portray is awesome, especially when most of your uploads to dA are filled with messages. I'm not saying that you should stop what you're doing, but rather I'm telling you to learn to accept criticism when provided.

I'm telling you that your edit made this drawing worse than what it was. Accept it.

Jakuryusei
4 months ago

I'd like to give a better critique but for anatomy the most important thing is to look up references; to that end I could recommend bodyworlds. http://www.bodyworlds.com/en.html

I learned more sketching plastinated corpses for a couple hours than I had from an entire semester's worth sketching nude models. So if you're serious about getting good visiting an exhibition is one of the best ways to learn. And if you can't do that, buy their book! It's fantastic.

but if you can't deal with that too well, I would recommend ether this trusty old tomb http://www.amazon.com/An-Atlas-Anatomy-Artists-Dover/dp/0486202410 or look into classes at your local community college. They could have life drawing, and it might help! Personally, I think sketching the poses fast helped me loosen up my art style, but there's also so benefit in that you get a pretty good idea of how real living things bend a squish with their movements. Only drawback is that ((at least in the class I had)) there weren't really very many muscular models so... it's not too helpful at teaching you how to draw people with the body type above.

Beyond anatomy, I would really, really, like to emphasize again that you look into modulating your line weights. It's 5 AM for me now, I have work in the morning, and I can't think of any great tutorials for that right now so I gotta leave that to you as a personal homework assignment, 'kay? It's really easy, and I know you can do it if you can do all this. So don't loose faith in yourself, and look to the future, ya?

That's how ya do as an artist; and as ya go, you start to realize that the climb itself is a whole lot more fun than the mountain who's peek you're reaching for.

Keir Tanaka
4 months ago

ChopStix said:
Keir Tanaka, let me break this down for you.
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I'm telling you that your edit made this drawing worse than what it was. Accept it.

I'll accept that when you accept that what's better & worse is subjective! The only edits I made were inserting tha backdrop+modding her top+a more fitting smile that has CHEESE written all over it; I didn't go anywhere near the parts everyone is bellyaching about!

Maybe you had your hands over your eyes or it was downvoted into invisibility(I bleeding hate that/why is that a thing)by then but I did accept the genuine criticism that finally came my way which was preceded by a peanut-gallery that came along solely to express raw contempt with no explanation why...which is not criticism! They sound more interested in gettin their jollies off than genuine art which...I don't mind but they should at least be upfront about it instead of just going "Eeeewwwwwww" all tha live-long day!

I'm not MAD or ANGRY but just going through a jarring shift wherein my craft was readily accepted or NOT - to a place where people don't like it so they word their dislike as either objectively factual truth or as if it's actually hurting them...ah screw it THAT DOES PISS ME OFF when people talk like their opinion is the only "truth" there is to any given thing especially with no REAL reason given why and not just with my works but in general!

I'm actually far more reasonable than you seem 2 think: I don't require anyone "kneel before me" or "praise my name to tha High Heavens" or "never ever point out where/when I do(objectively or subjectively)wrong" or "to pull that stick out of my rectum, take a niiice biiig whiff, proceed to put it back where they got it from and tell me that my @#$%& isn't just as smelly as everyone else in tha planet" like at all ever really!
IN OTHER WORDS
If they had just said something like "I don't like this" or even "I think this looks terrible" then this wouldn't be a thing we're doing right now!

Jakuryusei said:
That's how ya do as an artist; and as ya go, you start to realize that the climb itself is a whole lot more fun than the mountain who's peek you're reaching for.

I appreciate your motivational words; you've been 1 of the better(for lack of a better term)audience members I've had here!

Keir Tanaka
13 days ago

ChopStix said:
Keir Tanaka, let me break this down for you.
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.
I'm telling you that your edit made this drawing worse than what it was. Accept it.

I'll accept that when you accept that what's better & worse is subjective! The only edits I made were inserting tha backdrop+modding her top+a more fitting smile that has CHEESE written all over it; I didn't go anywhere near the parts everyone is bellyaching about!

Maybe you had your hands over your eyes or it was downvoted into invisibility(I bleeding hate that/why is that a thing)by then but I did accept the genuine criticism that finally came my way which was preceded by a peanut-gallery that came along solely to express raw contempt with no explanation why...which is not criticism! They sound more interested in gettin their jollies off than genuine art which...I don't mind but they should at least be upfront about it instead of just going "Eeeewwwwwww" all tha live-long day!

I'm not MAD or ANGRY but just going through a jarring shift wherein my craft was readily accepted or NOT - to a place where people don't like it so they word their dislike as either objectively factual truth or as if it's actually hurting them...ah screw it THAT DOES PISS ME OFF when people talk like their opinion is the only "truth" there is to any given thing especially with no REAL reason given why and not just with my works but in general!

I'm actually far more reasonable than you seem 2 think: I don't require anyone "kneel before me" or "praise my name to tha High Heavens" or "never ever point out where/when I do(objectively or subjectively)wrong" or "to pull that stick out of my rectum, take a niiice biiig whiff, proceed to put it back where they got it from and tell me that my @#$%& isn't just as smelly as everyone else in tha planet" like at all ever really!
IN OTHER WORDS
If they had just said something like "I don't like this" or even "I think this looks terrible" then this wouldn't be a thing we're doing right now!

Jakuryusei said:
That's how ya do as an artist; and as ya go, you start to realize that the climb itself is a whole lot more fun than the mountain who's peek you're reaching for.

I appreciate your motivational words; you've been 1 of the better(for lack of a better term)audience members I've had here!

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