Sankaku Channel/Post 3520571

Suddenly a good picture by as109 where I don't think he should get killed.

Kasane1337 said:
Suddenly a good picture by as109 where I don't think he should get killed.

eh, the man probably is 50 and has a gun pointed at her and will shoot if she doesn't do it
as109 etc

@fishsrufer Heh, perhaps. I just sometimes wonder - who the fuck is that guy? Does he see the doctor at least, or is he like in his basement, drawing rape-stuff and being afraid of the police finding out?
Whoever this guy is, I think he needs some serious help.

Rape is a common fetish in Japan, often present in mangas, novels and AVs. I understand you may not like this artist's 'realistic' touch or the rape orientied images, but he's not the only one. Also, not all of his works involve rape.

@randomcrow
yes, but just because it's out there doesn't mean it's fine to draw it so people can get off on it

@fishsurfer And drawing it doesn't hurt anyone.

Like I said, it's a fetish. Much like any other fantasy such as BDSM, which trades pain for pleasure, people will get off on it regardless of whether you approve of it or not. Basically, it's futile to criticize this artist's choice of an already established theme.
If you are against rape, maybe you should call out to actual rapists out there instead of a nameless artist.

Just saying.

Scevenex said:
@fishsurfer And drawing it doesn't hurt anyone.

or it could help rapists make them feel better about what they do, making them more likely to do it

@fishsurfer

The same could be said of any other media involving illegal acts. I doubt you believe GTA encourages road rage, random murder sprees, theft, or violence in general.

fishsurfer said:
@Scevenex
I do, actually, to some point. And if it weren't such a callous game, I'd buy it.

All I can say to that is, there's a distinct divide between fantasy and reality. Being able to distinguish between the two is the definition of sanity. The only people who would be influenced by fantasy are the insane, and I don't think censoring what can be represented in media will stop those people from causing trouble.

Scevenex said:
The only people who would be influenced by fantasy are the insane, and I don't think censoring what can be represented in media will stop those people from causing trouble.

I agree. The crazy people will always be crazy. If GTA wasn't around to make them realize that, then it would be Silence of the Lambs, or some other violent form of media (books, music, ect). Attempting to censor one thing will lead to censoring EVERYthing.

That said, I am in no way defending pedophiles or rapists or the like, but I do believe that drawn images of that content is doing more good than bad. They can get their passion out of the way without getting it bottled up and actually performing the act. IMO of course, it's not like pedophiles are lining up to take surveys on their experience with it, so there's no real "statistics" to prove either side.

tl;dr Everyone likes what they like and no one can change that.

@CaptainFawful

There's nothing wrong with being a pedophile either. It's the act of actually abusing a child that's wrong. Who's to say what is and is not right to like? Further, you can't even control what you like and not. How you act is how you should be judged. I don't much care for the idea that people are born inherently evil.

we already know that every murderer is crazy
and pedophiles/any other extreme sexual perversion does not "happen" as they are born, since that's what you're getting at. I'd put it like this: they choose it, sometimes accidentally.
next you're going to tell me their sexual desires didn't mature with the rest of their body/ies

fishsurfer said:
we already know that every murderer is crazy
and pedophiles/any other extreme sexual perversion does not "happen" as they are born, since that's what you're getting at. I'd put it like this: they choose it, sometimes accidentally.
next you're going to tell me their sexual desires didn't mature with the rest of their body/ies

I don't think a pedophile chooses to be a pedophile any more than a homosexual chooses to be homosexual. What we find erotic is simply biological. Pedophile is not synonymous with child molester. Nor is pedophilia a mental disorder as recognized by psychologists unless it causes guilt/trouble in day to day life. Different people find different things exciting or arousing, and they didn't "choose" to like whatever it was. Just because certain preferences are not as common as others does not make them inherently wrong or evil. Hurting others and doing terrible things based on the choices we make as thinking beings makes people evil.

And just a by the way, you can post without bumping so this doesn't keep getting dragged to the top.

Scevenex said:
I don't think a pedophile chooses to be a pedophile any more than a homosexual chooses to be homosexual.

homosexuality was included in "other sexual perversions"
based on your logic, nerds were destined to like video games from the moment they were born, and that makes absolutely no sense.
there are several ways one becomes so perverted, and none of them are biological, unless we're talking hormones; it's possible that a more girly guy could go gay, but that's only because people will think he's gay for looking/acting girly. if lots of people wonder if you're gay, then the person starts wondering themselves, slowly pushing them that way. so in that case, it's somewhat the peoples' fault, and somewhat the parents for not giving the poor soul hormones as a child to fix him up. though, if it happens this way, he's probably very easy to make go straight, since said person is probably insecure.

tl;dr that's the only place where it's not their fault that they're a sick-fuck

fishsurfer said:
there are several ways one becomes so perverted, and none of them are biological, unless we're talking hormones; it's possible that a more girly guy could go gay, but that's only because people will think he's gay for looking/acting girly. if lots of people wonder if you're gay, then the person starts wondering themselves, slowly pushing them that way. so in that case, it's somewhat the peoples' fault, and somewhat the parents for not giving the poor soul hormones as a child to fix him up. though, if it happens this way, he's probably very easy to make go straight, since said person is probably insecure.

Oooooor it could happen the other way around.

I was teased and bullied and ostracized for queer behaviors sense I was a preteen. The people who shunned me for it were practically the only other humans I knew, and I always fought to hide just why they teased me from the few people who didn't show me hate. My family, the scout master, my homeschool buddy who I kinda had a crush on... I bottled my feelings up inside for years. In order to please the people around me I had to prove I was strait, and to that end I convinced myself that I was. I think at one point I thought of homosexually the way I thought of mental handicaps, but when I got with a girl and failed to get it up... weeeell~ I had to concede that they might have been onto something!

That said, even though I have a boyfriend now I'd sooner identify as pansexual than gay or strait. I judge people on an individual basis, going by the quality of their personalities and the shapeliness of their buttockses!

(I'm not sure how much of this I really needed to share, in hide sight... but you brought up gayness and I wanted to rave about something! RAWR! *noms*)

Well. That escalated quickly. I just said that people who enjoy rape need to get some professional help.

"There's nothing wrong with being a pedophile either. It's the act of actually abusing a child that's wrong."
Thank you for that. You know, I am actually also interested in little girls, lolis, all that stuff. But this doesn't mean I'm into rape, as stated in my very first comment.

There's just this difference between fantasy and reality, I agree.

But this won't change the fact that people who draw something like this (little girls having sex with adult men or women getting raped) just need some help, mental help.
I mean, I'm going to see a therapist, because my slight pedophilia bothers me to much. I don't need to get rid of it, just like people who enjoy the though of rape, but I need to handle it and just NEVER MAKE IT HAPPEN.

@fishsurfer
Wait a second. How do you explain this being in your favourites?
http://chan.sankakucomplex.com/ja/post/show/3443514

A set of a girl getting brutally raped in the street, only to get raped by even more guys after the shock. I see what you like.

Don't worry haters, this is a paradox, regardless of the negative feedback which is not even a feedback.