Sankaku Channel/Suggestions

You can "subscribe" to a tag feed.

I was thinking of a "favorite this tag" feature if anyone has any ideas about that. It seems people want to keep track of tags without limit, which is possible, but not if they need all the tags in a feed together.

There is a post regarding the pools issue which never got any response:

http://chan.sankakucomplex.com/forum/show/868

This is more of a moderation issue though, and needs ongoing attention from interested users rather than work on the site itself.

I would add a small button like (S) behind the (?) for the tagwiki, like:

kono_lolicon_domome (?) (S) 144

And if you have already subscribed a tag, change the (S) to something else, or change only the color, but give some indicator that you subscribed this one.

Because I have no idea about webcoding, it depends on you where the tags would end up. (20 tags per group limit) Also no idea about the tag groups/sorting.

The proper idiom would probably be a star. So maybe you star/favorite a tag and that shows on the tag lists you view, and as a list in your profile.

Showing a collation of all the new posts in your favorited tags might be problematic for the same reasons subscriptions have limits.

Perhaps introducing some sort of manual or automatic checking mechanism might be of use, so you you could elect to view the new posts from the last time you checked them.

It seems that you changed the status borders around pictures, which is good. But can you add a 1 pixel white line between the frame and the picture? Blue borders with dark pictures are hard to distinguish.

Also, do favourites have yellowish borders now?
Edit: Seems so, thank god!

The conventional wisdom seemed to be that checking user favorites against all the posts they viewed would be a performance nightmare but extensive testing and clever queries revealed this is not in fact the case.

So thanks to Steinkauz's suggestion everyone now has visibly styled favorite thumbnails.

It probably helped that with the recommenders in place we now have a strong incentive to encourage people to use the system as well, and its shortcomings became apparent when I started to use the system extensively on another account for "testing" purposes as well...

Since the gold borders on favorites at present conflict with all the other post statuses and having mixed colour borders looks awful we'll probably restyle them shortly with a star or the like.

I like the borders, but with the favourites in place, you may should change to something like that.

http://i.imgur.com/S901igV.png

Thumbnail with status icons below. Could improve the visibility. Because quite often the borders are difficult to distinguish.

Would look very busy with everything having icons though, unless they were on hover which would not be very usable... think we might try an icon.

Where would to put the icon, on the picture? I think icons below the picture would be the best solution (because I'm to uncreative to think of a better one), if you want to move away from borders. If you want to stick with them, you have to do something about visibility. The problem before was the colors on the white background, now its the missing overlapping functionality with other borders and the missing white frame to distinguish the border from the picture.

I do like the idea of a 1px white border inside the colored borders. Just like black text with a white background is readable on everything (used nonstop in memes), a white inner border would go a long way.

The borders were in place before, but somehow they died while the borders got thicker and different colored.

Favorite styling has been settled on a golden glowing outline for favorited post thumbnails.

It seemed better to avoid putting anything on top of the actual thumbnail in the way of icons, or cluttering up the page with them.

I'm not sure whether to restore the inner border. Having heard from 2 people after deciding to remove it before there is not much either way.

We should probably also apply some sort of styling to the pages of favorited posts so people can more readily tell they have already favorited it.

Another suggestion regarding poorly tagged posts:

The message, which shows up when posts are waiting for pending approval, should link to the tagging guide in the Wiki.

Something like this:
http://imgur.com/Tye0B4Q

A tagging guide does not exist currently, but it should ask major questions about the content of the post and also link to the tag groups.

Edit:
I see, there is a tagging checklist. It's better to update that one and use that instead of the tagging guidelines.

How often does order:random reset? Would it be too difficult or weigh the system down if it did a random search every time?

Perhaps somebody could modernise or create a "quick" tagging guide for this role and we can link it in on various points on the interface.

Something in easy to comprehend checklist format with links out as we discussed earlier:

Who is in the picture? [characters, copyrights, numbers, genders]
What are they doing? [tag groups for actions]
What do they look like? [hair, eyes, skin, body, clothing, accessories]
What is in the picture? [objects, setting]
What sort of picture is it? [format, art style, perspective]
What is its rating? [rating]
Who is it by? [artist, source]

The idea being to save people scratching their hend trying to think up tags each time they are confronted by an image, and structure the process.

Elegance the order:random is actually sorting by md5, which is a fixed but pseudo-random string. Getting genuinely nearly random random results is actually an incredibly slow and complex process so this is a reasonable compromise.

I was editing howto:tag checklist right now. Is it ok like this? Or is it too much already?

I try to keep it short and just list the tags which usually have a count >1500, but there are so many of them. It's really hard to sort them in categories without using the same tag twice.

I think a distinction between the "how to tag" aspect and the "tag reference" aspect is needed so there is a (really) short guide we can expect new users to actually read and experienced users to be able to remember, and a more detailed guide people can refer to when necessary.

I'm hoping with something suitably concise we could actually put a brief list on the upload page, and not just link to the page.

That can be the tagging guidelines.

We should keep in mind, that we cannot expect new users to read any guidelines, when they are just trying to upload a few pictures. Clicking through interfaces to find a tag can be a pain for lazy users, too. That's where the tag checklist comes in. Just a list with major tags. I didn't want to link the tag groups, because you can't see all the tags at first glance there.

How about a way to order posts based on children count? Something link

• order:children_count

Is there a use case? It might be possible but it seems it will mostly be pages of posts with 1-2 children.

I like to photoshop different variations of the same image together. Finding images with plenty of children posts would help. It would also help to find comics or other ordered images where they're all children posts. If there's a risk of having too many pages of 1 or 2 children, I suggest something like children_count>5 or something.

Will take a look at that at some point, then.

Can we get some easier way to add parent/child posts? Opening each picture and scrolling to the bottom is quite painful, if you want to parent a bulk. Correct me if I missed something.

Tag script?

Oh god, and I thought parent:1234567 does not work. Thanks.

We can perhaps put it down to a flaw in the documentation, which may not yet make it obvious how to do this sort of thing.

I think I could have just tested it before whining about it.

It would probably never occur to most people to test something like that in the first place though. Anyway, as long as tag scripts do it that is fine.

steinkauz said:
While browsing through a tag, the posts are sorted in id order. Assuming a parent post and it's children share the same tag, wouldn't it be preferred if the system automaticly puts them together, otherwise they are scattered. May a useless convenience feature though.

System said:
Not a bad idea, but a bit hard to do in practice, and probably liable to give strange results at times due to the variety of reasons images may be parented (as well as a possible huge block of similar images)... a pop-out preview of the related posts might be a better approach.

I want to bring this again to attention. While parenting many pictures, this would help a lot. I find me these days browsing through an artist and having parentable posts scattered everywhere, losing track in the end which one I parented already. It's more a comfort thing for me though.